Some forum changes are coming....

[sweetka]

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

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This is by no means morphing into a private club. Why should i pay for cable and my neighbors are stealing it from my connection somehow ?
Why should i pay for a newspaper and your steady reading it looking over my shoulder during rush hour. why should the paying members cook the thanksgiving dinner while you pull up to the table ready to eat after not helping one bit ?

WHY SHOULD YOU GET THE SAME INFORMATION A PAYING MEMBER GETS ?

Nothing in life is for free, THIS CHATBOARD AND THE ENTIRE MFCA OPERATION COST MONEY TO RUN.

If you cant contribute $20 to $30 dollars per year to help the mfca operate, then you are advertising to me you are not dedicated to helping the hobby.
Someone will spend money on bases, figures, custom figures, decals, etc etc. But will not spend the $20 measly dollars to join the house where they got the information from to buy said decals, figures, bases and all other items.
This is looting the store in broad daylight. Many coaches have a MASSIVE PROBLEM WITH THESE SHINANIGAN'S AND IT WAS TIME TO STOP THE BLEEDING.

Call any bank and tell them im not going to have the mortage for a couple of months. I will get back with you in january. LETS SEE IF YOU HEAR FROM THEM EL PRONTO !!!

WE ARE PAYING A CHEAP MORTGAGE TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE CALLED THE MFCA.

I hope jim davis dont see this thread because he will it the roof !!!!!!!!






MANTARAYDRE OF THE MFCA

I think we should let Lynn handle this Dre.

[Treks1]

Eightball I can appreciate your opinion. We are still for bringing the hobby to the masses and some of the board topics will remain open the the passer-bye and the public at large.

Its appropriate for those who get the benefits of Board pay for those benefits. Membership in the MFCA is not an excessive financial burden the benefits worth the price.

[jimmie]

Maybe this forum is not for him he barely has used it 36 posts in three years,then wants to come out and complain because our club doesnt want to give it all away for free.Its outragous that some one who rarely even plays the game would make such statements.Its like a guy complain about the president but doesnt vote!!

[NATIONAL]

He has paid his dues to this hobby. He owes nothing. I don't agree with him, but I'm not going to let guys just dump on him either.

He has created and updated websites for 3 or differnt leagues.

He helped run the buzzball tourney for years.

He invented the cleat keeper that is used by most of all the top tweakers in the biz.

He use to do the bracket challenge when march madness kicked off!

That's stuff just off the top of my head. Plus he's an all around nice guy.

Like Kenny said, let the board of directors handle this situation.

Rich I hope you are wrong, and I hope you can see joining us down the road.

I hope you are well and keep in touch with your old friend!!!!!

Nat'l

[sweetka]

Originally Posted by NATIONAL

He has paid his dues to this hobby. He owes nothing. I don't agree with him, but I'm not going to let guys just dump on him either.

He has created and updated websites for 3 or differnt leagues.

He helped run the buzzball tourney for years.

He invented the cleat keeper that is used by most of all the top tweakers in the biz.

He use to do the bracket challenge when march madness kicked off!

That's stuff just off the top of my head. Plus he's an all around nice guy.

Like Kenny said, let the board of directors handle this situation.

Rich I hope you are wrong, and I hope you can see joining us down the road.

I hope you are well and keep in touch with your old friend!!!!!

Nat'l

I agree National, I sent him a PM stating such. I don't think it's a situation where people should be attacked or battle lines drawn. This should be considered an adjustment to "maintain" what has been built here. Rich has mad skills and much more to offer. This is the last place to draw a sword gentlemen. This man has contributed heavily guys, respect his position even if you do not agree with it. Just my 2 cents

[jimmie]

I will say this public bashing is not okay with me that opinon could have been made to wolf pirvately not wide open and if so then your open for criticism.Like pulling your pants down in public either get laughed at or wowed!!

[NATIONAL]

We had to twist your arm to get your behind on board! RR offered you like 10 bags of figs. The mfca promised you free Lions gear for a year!!

This thread is over. Guys have said their peace, let's move on.

It's all good.

LA Rams fan... you can get in for $20. If you can do half, I got the other half for you brother!!!!

We will start to run $5 raffles for the $50 membership! That would be good for a renewal or a new membership. Hopefully we get at least 10 guys each time so that we break even.
The end of each month we will try this to see how it works out. So you may get a membership for $5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MFCA member #11

Nat'l

Originally Posted by jimmie

I will say this public bashing is not okay with me that opinon could have been made to wolf pirvately not wide open and if so then your open for criticism.Like pulling your pants down in public either get laughed at or wowed!!

I said my piece, and you have said your piece . . . it's all good. My initial post was as much as response to a previous thread reguarding "what can be done to increase membership" as it was about the impending forum changes. If ya'll are happy hovering around the 200 mark as far as membership goes, then keep on doing what you are doing . . . and the hobby will survive as long as the last surviving member of the forum. This hobby already has a number of strikes going against it; it takes time, imagination, it's expensive, and it has rapidly diminishing name recognition among the younger generation, don't add exclusivity too that list. If finances are an issue . . . and it's natural that they would be, perhaps it is time to take a good look at what you are spending money on. For example, in this "green is good" era, does it really make sense (ecologically or economically) to publish a glossy magazine four times a year? How does this serve the "original" MFCA mission statement when the "printed copies" are strictly for members? Is this not just a "warm fuzzy" for those who are already on board with the hobby? Would it not make sense to hold off on the expense of a glossy magazine until association is large enough to accomodate it financially and get it out into public circulation? Until such time, wouldn't a downloadable .pdf version serve just as well and be more cost effective? You have to ask yourself, who is the association serving? If the answer is the "paying members" . . . then what you have is a "private club". When "member benefits" and "mission statement" collide, how much credibility does ANY entity have when they change the "mission" to suit the "members". Something is backward here. This is why I have chosen not to become a member until I see that association is truly dedicated to moving beyond the BS from the past with more than lip-service, and backs it up with steady enforcement of its rules and bylaws.

To CorEy, Ken, and Steve . . . I appreciate the kind words, and the feelings are mutual.

[styx]

Originally Posted by sweetka

I agree National, I sent him a PM stating such. I don't think it's a situation where people should be attacked or battle lines drawn. This should be considered an adjustment to "maintain" what has been built here. Rich has mad skills and much more to offer. This is the last place to draw a sword gentlemen. This man has contributed heavily guys, respect his position even if you do not agree with it. Just my 2 cents

i agree 1000%

[mantaraydre]

coaches,


This was not an attack on any one individual in regards to my response. I was simply pointing out where we are in regards to the money. In reality, YOU GOT TO PAY TO PLAY. my SIRIUS SATTELITE radio cost $13 A MONTH to keep on. I am not giving up that service for nothing.. I listen to it everyday without fail. I pay because it is a service i love. It brings me the entertainment i am looking for. So that shakes out to $156 per year.
The MFCA $20 per year for the same entertainment but in a different arena.
This is all i was getting at. Imagine going a road trip with some friends (IN YOUR CAR) and you had to stop 3 times for gas. You get out the the car the first two times to fill up and the friends offer nothing towards the gas. The third time you have to stop, aren't you going to look at them and say, "WHEN ARE YOU GETTING OUT ". Not trying to diminish or hurt any feelings, just pointing out some things.


MANTARAYDRE