What would you do if......

[O-schemer]

you were playing an opponent who had faster and stronger bases on both sides of the ball? How would you defeat them?

Also, without embarrassing anyone, give us an example of a time that this happened. I think this information would be very helpful to newbies.

I personally do not have an example to share yet.

great thread idea

[Michigan Joe]

spread em out, and use ITZ dials or quick arcing TTCs on the o-line to create seams. I let my son have my superior teams and this is what I've found is the best way to attack on offense.

On defense, always stop the run first. Make 'em earn it by beating you thru the air.

[jeff]

Use their power and speed against them.

[sweetka]

Offensively:

Protect the QB. Try to hit short pops and that will spread the defense. You don't have to be stronger to run the football but in this case you have to set up the run with the pass. No matter how strong a team is you can control how fast they come in. How?

Put your two strongest offensive lineman on one side. Your center should be made to turn away from them (influence). Your two less strong, dare I say weakest linemen on the opposite side. It is important that the center rolls that way. Set your back behind the weakest lineman. If you use motion turn, not move, your back towards either your tackle, guard, or center. This will create a natural hole. If your back hits and goes straight to the sideline you are actually on the right track and getting the blocking you need. You will either need to move him over slightly closer to the qB or angle less. All your receivers need to be tilted slightly towards the sideline. If this stategy works, and it does, They will began to tilt DB's inside and you will notice receivers streaking down the field. The natural misdirection and angles will eliminate blitzers. Most coaches don't generate a pass rush with their lines. Heres the set: Fig 1
One thing that was wrong with this play is that the tight end was not turned out enough. The Redskins are strength based and you are not going inside. Fig 2 see #33

Here is result of another set on the opposite side. The play didn't work for two reason: One, wrong back(33), 2. Didn't turn out the receiver (86)therefore the superstrong corner forced the back to the teeth of the defense. It is clear where the back should have went. Wilbert Montgomery later scored from 70 yards out on the second one (fig 3). He slid left into the whole. The corner wasn't a factor because I used a buzzball TE to take him away from the play. Oh I forgot. The defensive penetration forms a natural barrier to blitzes thus eliminating the speed element. A natural hole is created as well as physical mismatches due to five or six skins being committed at the wrong point of attack. The coach in this instance never made the adjustment or saw it coming. He's been playing since 9 years of age. I used double tight ends and placed number 86 on the opposite side. Remember: it is a game of adjustments. I later hit 86 for a critical first down (56 yards) in overtime. I ended up bootlegging around end with the QB to end it because the coach decided stop the inside run and for Charlie Young to be sealed (86) to the inside. He walked in.

On Defense: The natural tendency when someone is stronger than you is to stack. That's the biggest mistake you can make. I play a disguised 8 in the box. I actually learned it from watching Raiderman use it. He later told me he learned it from someone I can't remember. The object is to give the perception that you are vulnerable to the run. I later learned to study the backs and then place lineman where the slide along the line of scrimmage. Here is what it looks like: (Fig 4) The backside blitzer is actually a run stopper. The Safety that is back is the most important player on the field as my two strongest players (78/51) are at the point of attack. The guy over the TE (Orange Base) is actually my pass rusher/blitzer. Number 92 will come down and slide onto the tight end allowing the pass rush to be successfull. Number 65 and 66 provide inside push in case of misdirection. If the misdirection is successful, the Safety will fire into the whole created and seal the play thus minimizing the chance for a long run. If he cuts too deep the blind side run stopper (42) is going to swoop in for the tackle. You will note the cover corner (buzzball OL) is slightly angled so that he will give ground to the tight end the run downfield in coverage. By doing this you open up natural lanes for your defenders to attack. The guy over the orange based tight end did his job and recorded one of his three sacks on the day.

One last piece of advice. Study the receivers, see where they go when they break (tendencies) then place your safeties there to cut off angles that lead to a big play. After all, you did say stronger and faster right? Good luck!

PS. The pictures are scouting report material, that is why I was able to break it down so simply.

Do what APP. ST. did to UM...Spread 'em out!!! 5WRs and sit your QB right behind Center. Make sure your OL stays intact, even if they do get pushed back, so as to create a "natural" pocket around your QB. Then hope and pray you get a guy open.

Also, the Double TE / Ace works well to pickup those OLBs and allows you to hit your RB in the flat.

So, in either case, at least on Offense, your OL will most likely end up "zone" blocking as opposed to "drive" blocking. The key is to keep YOUR OL in between your RB (and/or QB) and the Defense.

On defense, that is a horse of another color!!! 1 vs. 1 I was getting creamed, so I had to find the crack in the armor against a formidable opponent's "HULK" running game. Once I figured out which way his RB arced, I attacked that side i.e. if he arcs left, attack the left side of the O.

Lemme get some pictures together to accompany the narration like Kenny did. Be back later to finish up.

[wolverine]

sweetka...those chargers are GREAT

[Michigan Joe]

Look at the detailed strategy from Sweetka, you gotta love it!
Thanks for such a great response.

[GrandMasterKC]

Originally Posted by JIMBO

Do what APP. ST. did to UM...Spread 'em out!!! 5WRs and sit your QB right behind Center. Make sure your OL stays intact, even if they do get pushed back, so as to create a "natural" pocket around your QB. Then hope and pray you get a guy open.

Also, the Double TE / Ace works well to pickup those OLBs and allows you to hit your RB in the flat.

So, in either case, at least on Offense, your OL will most likely end up "zone" blocking as opposed to "drive" blocking. The key is to keep YOUR OL in between your RB (and/or QB) and the Defense.

On defense, that is a horse of another color!!! 1 vs. 1 I was getting creamed, so I had to find the crack in the armor against a formidable opponent's "HULK" running game. Once I figured out which way his RB arced, I attacked that side i.e. if he arcs left, attack the left side of the O.

Lemme get some pictures together to accompany the narration like Kenny did. Be back later to finish up.

[dallcow4life28]

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