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[mantaraydre]

HEY SHAB,

The cbsmf was moved for business purposes. It was a better option to do it jointly with the mica convention. It would have failed miserably if it went to vegas the first year starting out. maybe in a few years it can succeed out west somewhere.


thanx mantaraydre

[Shabby J]

What are you talking about Dre? Business purposes, is the CBSMF designed to make a profit? Business, what business, who's business, your business, my business???!!!

It was VOTED on by all prospective coaches and agreed, then taken out from under us, how else am I supposed to react to a blanket statement like this?

[mantaraydre]

shab,

business in terms of getting more people in one concentrated area/place. The stern center offered a service to camp in at a cheaper rate so more coaches can come who did not want to deal with the expense of a hotel. The cbsmf would have had to find a hotel out west when the MFCA already had a venue put in place. That saved the CBSMF the headache and contract to get a certain amount of rooms to get any deal on the cost of the hotel ballroom to have the games. Also, when you throw in the hall of fame, the hall of fame game, a tailgate. That makes for an entire weekend where a coach can get his money worth. I have been to plenty of tourneys around the country and all that is offered is the games then go home. Miggles tourney works because it is in a unbelievably hotel. NO ONE CAN EVER BEAT THE EMBASSY SUITES. Its cost a great deal of money to get a ballroom at the embassy suites. I don't think he cbsmf is financially ready to take on something like that right now. so for business purposes, that's why it was moved.

thanx
mantaraydre

[saintcelo]

If you were to have the next years championship in Vegas... we would probably have a 32 team bracket (I need not say anymore... but I will)

*West Coast will most likely be 20-25 teams alone... (counting play in's)

*BIG 10, will represent 10+ teams... maybe-maybe not... if not then maybe the CBSMF powers that be will understand travel hardships (saying you understand travel hardships then still attack by saying there is "no support" in the same thread is just ridiculous)

*SWC, 4-8 teams

*Independents 3-5 teams

THIS LARGE OF A TOURNEY WOULD BE:
*HUGE FOR THE CBSMF(to deny this opportunity would be just plain stupid)
*HUGE FOR RECRUITING
*HUGE FOR UNITY AND FELLOWSHIP
*BENEFICIAL towards making West coast teams hungry to travel to other stats the following year after they see how fun it is to see other coach's style of play
*Watts, Roller, Jennings, Michigan Joe amongst many other east and south EFers would become over night celebrities when they show what they have to offer to the EF world out here
*West coast EFers have a lot to teach EFers across the country as well
*Everyone who comes to vegas... loves vegas... I love Canton but the offers they offer does not come close to what vegas can offer

Maybe I miss understood Reggie... but to say/ask in few words, "why come to you when you dont come to us???" I ASK THE SAME QUESTION!

Aja, Myself, Rick G, Hall of Famer Mike Turner, future Hall of Famer Jeff Eby and Eric Thomson... Have proven the west coast is deserving of favor returned

I hate to say, I see a storm coming and I hope im wrong

Coach Celo

[sweetka]

Joe,

It was an honor and priviledge seeing yourself and Zack. I know you were on the rules committee and all. I know that you know the game and your integrity, in my opinion, is beyond reproach. I, as well as many others thought you were managing the game excellent with respect to both coaches. Then all of a sudden boom, a big change, and both the tempo (game clocks taken from you), and the outcome (shake box taken from you) changed dramatically. Why?, because you needed support. SAYS WHO? What was so wrong?

What we really need is a standalone convention not dependent upon glory seekers who define themselves, by any means necessary, through winning and losing. To depend on a person to set your rules then cast him aside like a "cheap trick" is a clear indication of willfull intent to do something. But why? This year really brought some things to the forefront.

I also played Corey in the MFCAL Championship Game. I wound up advancing by playing the Al Dunhams Zombies against his Sabsquatch team, then playing Chris Fields and several others for fun.

I lost that championship game the same way I got there by opening myself up to learn a new rule set. Although there were some rough spots in that game I fully understand that there was no way Corey and Adrian could cover every rule no matter how hard they tried. We had a great game and I didn't feel uncomfortable, cheated, or otherwise although I gave Corey the business for that handoff rule. After all, it was a championship game and he returned the favor by nullifying a fumble that would have given him the ball. With a few exceptions, and with no disrespect, the NEFL rules have far more pace and fairness than Shootout and can possibly resolve some of the issues back here. I may have lost a game but I gained so much knowledge by having the deversity to accept and respect another man's game. It makes me feel like a winner.

Thanks Joe and Corey.

I will be contacting you as well as others as the MFCA is deserving of a league that supports their mission statement, not a buddy.

[sweetka]

Originally Posted by Treks1

....for a MFCA league and MFCA rule set.

You and I have produced in the past. Let's get this done brother.

MFCA World League

Where Honesty, Integrity, and Fellowship Reign Supreme.

Need a logo Wolf. We are dead serious.

[mantaraydre]

Hey treks,

YOU MEAN, not the coaches point challenge. But a straight up MFCA rule set that everyone around the country would know. Then have a tourney with that ruleset like miggle.


mantaraydre

[mantaraydre]

coaches

can i do the logo and submit it to wolf for the creation.

I LIKE THE NAME, MFCA WORLD LEAGUE. We do have coaches around the world right now.


mantaraydre

[styx]

WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT,IM IN ,IF THERES ANYTHING I CAN HELP WITH ,LMK

[sweetka]

Originally Posted by mantaraydre

Hey treks,

YOU MEAN, not the coaches point challenge. But a straight up MFCA rule set that everyone around the country would know. Then have a tourney with that ruleset like miggle.


mantaraydre

The objective is to leave that piece in place for those that don't play in a league or the specific league. We have discussed a three pronged plan that will combine what we have with Miggle style play in, MFCAL, and the third part which will combine rulesets that provide options to both coaches that play by the same or different rule sets.

Dre,

I was the webmaster when many people joined the Great Lakes. Steve and I had coaches interviews and tons of other information that we think will rightfully provide our membership with every tool imaginable to play their game regardless to college, pro, bozo's, NHFL. Our thought process is that by exposing those members to the many alternatives available for play, we can generate a huge turnout for our fellow members. A WE thing!

No exclusions, all inclusive.

Already have a site to start, it will be donated. Get your team ready.