On to the next round......boards

[Shabby J]

Just let people play, you guys are really aren't doing the hobby any favors.

I really hate the direction we are going in with standards, weight classes, board sizes, etc... I am just one man and my opinion does not mean jack here, but for the first time in the last few years I am on the fence about renewing my dues bases on what I have seen lately.

You guys hash it out.

[mantaraydre]

Al,

I was going to touch on boards next myself. i will post more in detail later.
I think the smallest board should be the 620. Its just enough room for any new comer to spread out a bit and get acustomed to the game again.

Once comfotable and acustomed

1) 308
2)watz boards
3)RD'S 39/24 BOARDS
4)BUZZBALL PD FIELDS

***These fields are relatively the samesize

Specialty scale size fields.

max length, 61" to 67 " in length


My question is, is their a way to measure the current(BUZZ) on each field ?
Like a small meter you can just place on any field and the current is read and recorded. Something like measuring how strong an earthquake was.
This can ensure even distribution of current per game play. Small hand held meters. I sure they are out there.


mantaraydre

[NATIONAL]

Yeah what Joe A. said.........It's no big deal brother.

In the NEFL we made the switch to 620 being the min. Anything under that is perfect for Arena.

So Shabby it's all good. Where's the wifi!??????


Nat'l

[Pirate Rick]

i think it is not so much board size that needs to be worried about as much as the board SURFACE and MOTORS. If you play on metal with a electro-magnetic (miggle) motor, then switch to a vinyl field with rotary motors, or to fiberboard and those motors, there are going to be gr8 differences in power,speed and smoothness, so size becomes ir-relevent if your team wont run on the surface.

[roller]

I like the various surfaces and sizes. It creates homefield advantage and it makes for unique game conditions similar to lambeau in december

[eflfanatic]

The Rules Committee is working on two things right now. A "For Advanced Play" guide book, encyclopedia, or whatever you want to call it.

This is the Purpose and Mission of that project.

Purpose: To create an “Encyclopedia” of rules and terms used by current and past league and tournament organizers to play the game of “Miniature Football”

Mission: By examining and evaluating the various rules that are currently being used and have been used in the past by league and tournament organizers, we are attempting to compile an “encyclopedia” of terms, rules and game play formats, to give the serious coach of miniature football a guide to use in choosing a league or tournament format to challenge and further develop his skills and coaching abilities. This will also serve as a guide to coaches who wish to organize their own local or regional league or tournament for the purpose of attracting other coaches who may wish to play the game of miniature football in a more competitive environment.

This guide will also attempt to serve as a history of leagues and tournaments and as a historical account of the development of rules and equipment (game boards, figures, bases and other innovative developments) used by league and tournaments to play the game of miniature football.

We are also working on a set of "official" rules for MFCA sanctioned league and tournament play. Every league or tournament has to have rules. Any one who has ever worked on league or tournament rules knows what a difficult task this.

We are not trying to force standards on any one.

This series of discussions (and there will be more) is purely to find out what the majority of the MFCA membership wants so that we can create a set of rules that will govern the game play of MFCA league and tournament competetion that hopefully enough people will be satisfied with to want to participate in.

For those of you who think that this is trash and a waste of time. I humbly respect your opinion and you have a right to express that opinion. But you also have to repect the opinion and the right of those to express their opinion who do think that it is worth their time and effort.

Respectfully,
Chris LeMay
Chairman, MFCA Rules Committee.

[Shabby J]

Originally Posted by eflfanatic

We are also working on a set of "official" rules for MFCA sanctioned league and tournament play. Every league or tournament has to have rules. Any one who has ever worked on league or tournament rules knows what a difficult task this.


Respectfully,
Chris LeMay
Chairman, MFCA Rules Committee.

The MFCA is not a league nor should it be. It is an organization that brings coaches together to embrace and unify people in all styles of play.

Is the MFCA on TV, is the MFCA on local radio, is the MFCA in major sporting publications, is the MFCA ever going to hit 300 members, is the MFCA going to retain current members, is the MFCA offering DVDs, etc...

This is where I think the focus should be, not on weights and field standards that already exist.

Just my opinion Mr. Chairman and there will be more.

[eflfanatic]

This is where I think the focus should be, not on weights and field standards that already exist.

Shabby,

So if standards already exist, what are they and are they clearly defined?

The MFCA is not a league nor should it be. It is an organization that brings coaches together to embrace and unify people in all styles of play.

You are right about this and I quess we have to decide whether or not the MFCA as an organization should be trying to sanction or sponsor league and tournament competetions of their own.

[the french guy]

One thing that confirmed players have to realize : for a "real" beginner (people who never played electric football ), the MF world is dark and foggy


I explain : When I found the first information about MF on internet, my first thought was "it's original and unusual, how do we play that thing ? ". Then, I readed, and readed again, anything I found on the subject. And I didn't understand anything, until I found youtube videos.

Once I understood how the system was working, I suscribed on MFCA forum. ANd again, I was completly lost : what figs, what bases, differences between that brand and that brand, what board should I use, what ruleset, sticks, ttqb, tdq, etc...But I was motivated. When I've got something in mind, I dig, and dig again until I 'll understand everything, and in the better case, I 'll master it.

But I'm pretty sure a lot of guys will surrender facing all the difficulties, the dozens of ruleset, the tons of diferent equipements available.


If you want to bring new MF players, especially the youngest (who never played the game) or foreigners (as I said before, a lot of foreign countries already know football : canada, germany, italy, france, japan, holland, etc...), you'll have to make guides, standard or whatever you can call it.

When I was thinking about my first board, people had PM me infos about miggle boards, tudor boards, or even on how to create my own custom board. All that, via PM or on threads hided (I mean, not directly visible for the newcomer) on the forum. So that information and opinions, basically already exists. If anything more visible and clear existed , it would be easier.


If there is only ONE reason to make that type of guides or discuss, here it is : making the beginners a easier way to join us. It will not change veterans league or their hobby vision, it will just make the hobby more "readable" for non specialists.

[Coach Rip]

Dimitri,

this is What I have been saying for years, but one thing you must understand, many guys in the hobby don't really care about supporting newbies. We have come a long way, many guys have since stepped up to the plate, and the tide has turned but we still have a long way to go.

You described what I have classified as "Paralysis by analysis" the newbies get sooooo bogged down with the "so many ways/things" many walk away before they even get started.