Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE
This business of passing.
First off, IN THE NFL, when a qb drops back to pass (three, four or five step drop) locates his primary receiver for the play and he is open. How lolng would that entire process take before the rush gets to the qb. Is it 5 secs, 7 secs, 10 secs, what is the estimated time frame.
as I have watched most games, it is in the 3-5 seconds but no more than that to get a pass off in the NFL
When we figure out how long it takes altogether, why can't we implement that into miniature football. I know burgess has somethjing along those lines (not saying this because i joined his league) but another coach called me tuesday and had the same thoughts. We agreed, in the nfl a the entire receiver unit may not be open on some plays and the qb throws it away.
And what does the anouncer's alway's say. Excellent coverage by the defense.
NOT SINGLING OUT ANY TOURNEY OR STYLE OF PLAY, but in many instances once the board is turned on it is an absolute jail break to the end zone.
nature of the beast! One of the drawbacks that is "built-in"If your not using the pass placement so the DB can get an interception on the play (via fast rookie bases on your secondary) WE ARE ALL LEFT SHAKING AND HAVING OUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT THE OTHER COACH MISSES
WITH THE TDQ OR TTQB. Well in real football, the db's don't stop once the ball is thrown and say "oh my god, i hope he under or over throws the pass"
Sorry Dre, you need to play better defense, by this I mean do something other than "bump-n-hold" on a WR... you have to use zones, tricks and hide some of you coverages to make the offense guess just long enough for you speed rushers to get pressure. As for getting INT's - I get more than my share because I use a varity of things for the QB to see before he can pull the trigger.
When a coach misses with a pass, what's the first words out of the other coaches mouth, A HAPPY "INCOMPLETE" Under there breath, "yeah he missed". Shouldn't there be more to the defense than waiting to see if he can hit that golf shot. TRUE!!!
The TDQ and the TTQB are for the brette farve, jay cuttler bullet through the crease's pass. The pace placement is for the Dan fouts, joe namath leading the receiver pass. I love when you guy's incorporate both into your gameplay so we can enjoy both.
I mentioned the timing of the drop back earlier because why can't we have a set time on all pass play's. If a coach say's pass, that board stay's on for the agreed amount of time to drop back and find his receiver.HERE IN THE BEFL, WE USE A TIMER FOR ALL PASS PLAYS. WE GO ON THE 3 SECOND COUNT...EITHER YOU GET SOMEONE OPEN OR YOUR SACKED. When a coach see's the sack coming, he cut's the board off right away then searches who to throw to. Well if we are trying to immulate the nfl as much as we can, when tom brady see's the sack coming he does not yell freeze and everyone on the football field stop's and wait's for him to make a decision.nO HE DOES NOT SAY "FREEZE", BUT HE DOES NOT LET THE DEFENSE HIT HIM WHILE THE BAALL IS STILL IN HIS HAND, EITHER. If you agree on 6 sec for the drop back and wr to get down field, if a blitzer get's there in 4 sec's you can't stop the board to avoid the sack.
So, when the timer goes off in 6 sec's, if you are not sacked, see if your primary receiver is open, if not, your second and third choices and hit one of them with the TDQ or TTQb or pass placement. With the db's running down field with the receiver, you may hit one of them in the back instead of the receiver being wide open by himself due to him slipping past a cover corner because he was on a base with a rounded front.
I understand you views on the extended amount of time the board can stay buzzing on a play...some coaches place their QB 18 yds from the LOS and wait for someone to get open for as long as they can sit there...you need as you second tier OLB guys who can get to that 18yds in 2-3 sec consistantly to make the QB stop the action. It's part of the game, DRE so you have to live with it. Good coaching rule 203 says " quick pressure is cause for concern for the offense. Their timing is ruined when the defense gets in the backfield before the play can develop." If you need more study time on zone defense, refer back to some of the post in the stragey section - a few coaches share some great concepts to try. I say this all the time, you have to KNOW you players first. Then you can "train" then to execute you plan only after spending time on the practice field.
I AM HOPIMG WE CAN HAVE A CIVILIZED DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THIS TOPIC.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT MANY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS
MANTARAYDRE
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