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Old 09-15-2010, 04:47 AM
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Remember were competing with video games, unlike when we were young
I'm not sure we really compete with these. See people playing roleplaying games, or tabletop wargames : they can play the same games on a PC or console. But they still play with real persons, figures, etc...

Playing tabletop wargames demands involvement (learning complex rules), money (building the armies) and time (painting figures and creating landscape). So I believe that MF is not a "ready to play out of the box" game is not such a big issue.

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the games that are played in comic book stores and board game stores usually dont have people that were interested in football.

that is an issue If people is the same in USA than Europe (and I believe, we're significantly the same). Someones knows that I'm hardly trying to build a league an "in real life" interest for MF here in France.

I remember one guy, playing a fantasy (orcs, gobelins, elves, etc...) tabletop football game, saying me (more or less) "I don't understand the interest to play a game with normal athletes when I can play dragons and vampires". I answered : "why people are playing WW2 wargames or build model railroad ? There is not dragons too". The guy agreed, but stills not interested in our game.

Then, I tried to touch football audience (people on football forums, etc...) : they think the game is interesting and beautiful, but since they are interested in sports and not at all modelling or tabletop gaming, they don't want to give a try.


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The wargaming community is the way to go I'm telling you. I have personally introduced the hobby to many by demoing with Reg. at wargaming conventions. Most all the attendees are amazed at our hobby. Some have even gotten involved.

I still think we'll find more people, probably not the younger, in wargaming world. I recently found a guy here in France, in my aera, playing pirates tabletop games (!), and a lot of other things (creating figures, scenery, slotcars, resin, etc...). I have to meet him in the next weeks. If he 's hooked by the game, believe me you'll be impressed by his talent


WHy "probably not the younger" ? Because as I said, I believe we're all the same. I played rugby when I was a teenager, then I grow up and sport interest became embarassing. I started to meet other people, playing role playing game, listening heavy metal and stop to cut my hair

But now, with some the same friends I had, we meet to see rugby games, or even football games (season opening, superbowl, etc...).


The youngest in wargaming are also often "hooked" by a wargame brand, and will not watch out other ones. Then, growing up, they will play more "underground" games (pirates, uchrony, etc...), or more serious games (historical games).



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What is the reason you will not create your own team ?
ALSO, PLEASE STOP SAYING FANTASY TEAMS. I DONT SEE ANYBODY DAYDREAMING. THIS IS REALITY AS WE KNOW IT.

Funny you're speaking about that. I had the same thinking recently. My Giants team will probably the last NFL team I'll do for me. The next ones will be fantasy (meaning my own team, my own franchise, etc...) or french elite football oriented.



edit : last thing : when you demo to wargamers, use passing simulation instead of ttqb. BELIEVE ME, as a former wargamer and totally beginner, real passing is something wich can annihilate your efforts

Passing sticks are very similar to wargamer rulers. Making wargaming people more confortable.

Last edited by the french guy : 09-15-2010 at 05:00 AM.
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