That's it: i'm done with Excalibur!!!
 

:mad: Hey guys, i would like to share my dissapointment against Excalibur. I tried several tinmes during the year about when the NFL teams will be available and the pushed back again and again and again and guess what?? again.


Now the answer they gave me today is that they don't know if they will produce theses teams finally. What a waste of time. They should give back the liscencing to Miggle or maybe we should encourage our custom MF maker but one thing's for sure, it is over with Excalibur. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH :mad:


What do you think about that?

There's a lot of peoples around the world who played some table top games such as miniature football, table baseball, fomula dice, every kind of table hockey games, Subbuteo soccer, slot car racing and even custom tabletop sports games that can be played one-on-one or even in solitaire. Maybe it is time to regroup all together and create a king of world tabletop sports games association. What do you think about that?


Send me a PM or a e-mail (flickhockey@yahoo.com)

Give me your feedback.


Benster from north of the border

Excalibur is not an exclusive EF/MF company. Vibrating football is just one of their many ventures. I must admit that their customer service is terrible. I was once told by customer service (I use the term loosly) that they would no longer be producing the figures, or bases for the Vibrating Football Game. I kinda put two & two together, and considered the ignorance, and resistance of the customer service agent not trying to find a solution, or answer to my questions...and just wrote her off just wanting to get rid of me. I later found out that the NFL has set a higher standard on Excalibur. Their new figures must pass expection by the NFL. I would guess the reason that the release date keeps getting pushed back is because the NFL is not yet satisfied with what is being presented to them. I also heard that the current AFC/NFC Excalibur figures will no longer be produced, due to not meeting the approval of the NFL. You can continue to bash Excalibur if you want to, but I think that we are fortunate to have any big company throw their hat into the ring to try to produce quality EF/MF products.

you may be right but is been over a year than thay have the liscencing and what progress this company have made?? Nothing, Zippo, Nada, Rien. At least Miggle give us some good quality and their teams looks very well considering the price that they sell their teams. And by the way, it is not a bashing issue, i think that all the MF coaches were very patient with this company and it is time (i think) that they have to proof me that they are not a joke and they take MF/EF seriously


Regards, Benster from north of the border cnd:$

Excalibur Whenever
 

As I see it, we have enough going here. We have Buzzball, Footballfigures.net, Miggle as well as the other independent manufacturers. Due to that fact, I am not worried about when Excalibur is going to launch their products.

In regards to tabletop games as a whole, my concern is about electric football; not only because I play it. It’s because among all of the tabletop games, it has gotten the worst rap. I have heard more negative stories about electric football than any other game probably in history.

Maurice

The Electric Coach

I agree with Maurice
 

Who needs them? We have enough guys right here in our circle that we can support. They (excalibur) never showed me that they were going to do the hobby any justice anyway.

Yes I do have the excalibur set. Just got it to have it. Never opened it tho.

Nat'l

Yep, what he said.

Stop it, really! Excalibur needs some time, be patient, as was mentioned this is not their sole interest and money maker, it was for Miggle, but not for Excalibur.

If you want more info out of this company you have to push a lot farther up the ladder than a customer service rep in a catalog call center earning $10.00an hour. She could give a rat's arse about your NFL teams, right??? Come on, expand the mind and seek the truth.

I have also heard that the NFL is holding them to a much higher standard, so there is truth to this. Hopefully because of this we will end up with better looking more detailed figures than Miggle was offering. They are in tune with the MF pulse even though many of you don't think so. Getting things done in companies like this takes time.

Why is everyone in such a hurry to get NFL teams again anyway? It's not like EBay isn't filled to the brim with Miggle NFL teams, if you are "jonesing" that bad for an NFL team paint and decal one yourself or buy from the many talented artists out here.


I guarantee you, all the Excalibur bashers will be the first in line to get the hottest new item(s) when it comes out though, you can bet on that!

Loyalty and support is what this company needs in these tough economic times. I have Excalibur boards, accessories, bases and teams, their TTQBs are the best thing out right now (if you still like to use this style QB), as Miggles can't even think of comparing.

I have said this before, we need to support them now for what they may offer us in the future.

There are too many other options available to me including but not limited to painting them myself!!! I don't have time for any business or organization to hold back my passion.If I want it bad enough and at least the bare parts are there,I'll get it done somehow.

raiderhp

I have to agree with Shabby
 

The NFL is in the business of making money--serious money. If they feel, at any point that one of their divisions no longer can justify their investment, then they will drop it like a hot potato, trust me. Until then, give them time, and if they do drop it, there will always be someone to come along and fill the void--let's just hope it does not take so long.

Why even worry about Excalibur
 

From what I have been observing Excalibur has not been serious about
miniature football. Their product is/was quickly produced and honestly
seemed cheap in construction.

Now the NFL wants a higher standard for manufactured teams/players!?

The NFL knows about this site and all you guys who take the time and
effort to design and produce quality MF products. The problem is they
want the majority of the profits.

Meanwhile, all who are associated with MF will continue to reap the
benefits from our own little community like better larger boards, better
teams and team poses, as well as the extraneous field dress, stadiums etc.

One thing though, I'm not too good at building or constructing, could someone
make a plain old manual scoreboard?

That's the problem with a lot of people, they want instant gratification, nothing is worth waiting for anymore to anyone!

Get beyond the shelfishness and look towards the future.

Look for the big picture, it's right in front of you, but most people fail to see it.

I totally agree with you Shaby J!
They don't realize that we are a small minority in the scope of Excalibur's Vibrating Football sales. They completely sold out of their boards on their last production run (Holiday Seasons 2007). We don't have enough people on this forum to buy them out over a year, let alone 2 months. Look at the BIG PICTURE...you have to crawl before you can walk. We're fortunate that they are even acknowledging us. How many of you can say that you would not take the money and run (same old product, but new $ every Holiday Season). It looks like the same old EF/MF frame of mind to me...bash it, ban it, complain about it. I will remain to be patient, and purchase what I need from the current manufacturers. As Shabby J said, Excalibur's QB's are great, they do not break at the ankle, figures are great, and the bases are workable. I just don't understand how one can be disgusted with a company that is actually ahead in the game, when looking at how long it took Miggle to get to the point of producing stamped helmet NFL teams. Miggle still hasn't produced a decent game board...how long has it been? If Excalibur comes out with a great product, then it will just be the gravy on top of what we already have.

OK but this company must have to be honnest with their customer if they want to keep the business. Let me ask you a question. If at the beginning, Excalibur was honnest with us and told us that this would be much longer than anticipated, then i'll understand but you can't pushed back again & again & again, do you think that peoples will still upset against them?

You and Shabby J have some good points but i'm still upset against Excalibur. Is not that i'll never buy some MF item from them (you're right about the QB. they're solid and great!!) but they ahve to shown some respect and stop to pushed back until 2025 to make theses things done



Respectfully
Benster cnd:$ flg$

I hear you Ben. My question to you is...who have you spoken with??? Are you taking the word of the min wage idiots in customer service, or do you have word from a higher authority? I overstand your frustration in anticipation of new products...I just feel that blasting, or voicing a negative opinion on a public forum ("I'm done with Excalibur") could possibly detour larger manufacturers from dealing with a specialty group of hobbiest like us. It is easy to produce ef/mf crap, and make $. I would like for a company to eventually take interest in what we doing, and step up to the plate and make the products we have been craving for years.

Time Will Tell
 

Ben,

Give Excalibur time to show what they can do. If they are about the business of getting things done, they will come through. If not, that is an indicator that they weren’t worthy to begin with. If Excalibur is successful, fine. I will support them. If they are not, it’s fine by me. As I said before, I am not worried about when they launch their products because we have the resources here among us already. So chill!

Maurice

The Electric Coach

Patience!
 

Hang in there Ben. We've got plenty other products to choose from until Excalibur gets their act together. Patience my friend!

Don

Who cares!
 

Hey lets face it, anyone who is really into this paints and details their own figures anyway.The stuff that companies mass produce is shoddy at best.
So big deal the helmet is stamped..how about the rest of the details? Lines not straight, paint smuged,flashing not removed from figure, lack of detail in mold,heck you could come up with a bunch of reasons why the massed produced pre painted players are not worth buying.Get in the game...start painting and see how fast you are creating beautiful life like detailed players and teams,once you get the hang of it you'll be hooked.Now for those who just can't paint or don't have the time, buy them already painted and detailed from the guys on the site,yeah they cost more but they are worth having if your into the game and hobby.
You can order some great looking unpainted figures from Buzzball,Football Figures.com and of course Miggle plus several others so get into it and quit worrying about companies who could care less about your business
If want to play like the best make sure your teams look the best
START PAINTING!

Give Excalibur A Chance!
 

Comrads:

These guys are novices to the sport. Let's forward our questions and concerns to them, give them time to respond, and take it from there.

Hey, Miggle doesn't have the license anymore. These are the new guys on the block. Let's try and work with them.

At least, that is the attitude that I am taking.

Carpe Diem,
Paul Leslie Gardner

Mix feelings.
 

Well, I would like to be positive about excalibur but I honestly don't think they are interested in ef or vibrating football. They had a go at it but probably realize that the big market just is not there. The future of the market are the kids. Do they buy the vibrating football game in large number ? I'm not sure. cnd:$

That stuff is junk anyway
 

People you guys are like sheep to be lead anywhere!!That stuff was junk!!If they were serious what experts did they consult??All the experts are here!!!The true gamers!!They put out a product that cost them about 250.000 to make if not more they had to give the NFl 15% of thier sales and the fee for the liscense they barely made any selling out only means what they put in the stores sold did they make enough who knows??Most coaches dont play with store bought men any more thats why Miggle didnt renew its deal!!I mean come on guys really!!:confused:

You say sheep. I disagree. I say lemmings. :p

Clicky Clicky Here> LEMMINGS

:rtfl:

oh my god!!
 

Perfect yes indeed!!

Jimmie's right about the hobby
 

I'm pretty sure I posted here way back about Excalibur . Don't expect to see teams at their designated release dates. They were going to wait and see what type of demand they were going to have before making a huge investment of 64 teams.

Guys, .................you have to think about it like a business man does, .......... no emotional ties, he is just looking to make a profit. And God knows, there is nothing wrong with making a profit. Expecting a business to do otherwise is socialism/communism.

From the outside looking in, most business people would be slightly intrigued and see, maybe, some profit at Christmas Time. But I think once they look at the typical hobby customer, they will tend to say "no thanks", and if they actually knew the hobby intricately, like many of us do, ................they wouldn't walk away, ..............they would run away from this hobby.............. sorry but I'm just being real :cool:

Has anything changed recently with Excalibur? Do they have NFL teams yet?

I just bought an Excalibur board for my nine year old and it has an order from in it for the NFL teams. All 32 in white and dark jreseys. I'm not sure if they are actually producing them however. The order form isn't on their website. Teams run $19.95 a piece.

Maybe you guys already knew this. If so pardon my ignorance. I just joined yesterday. :dohdh:

That sounds like news to me. Is there a phone number listed on the order form I could get?

That order form has been in every box. I don't believe they have any figures or will ever have any. I might be wrong but I would contact them first before sending any money.

N.F.L. teams
 

With the guys on here producing figures , decals , paints , facemask , bases and etc. , no need to mess with anybody else ! I know it takes more time and maybe alil costly but well worth it ! So , to all you guys I've bought from don't worry , I'll buy again ... again ... again ... and again. You haven't lost my business !

Excalibur is not doing well with selling there games so i don't think they are going to come out with any NFL teams. The games at one time were carried by Marshalls, J.C. Penny and Macys but they sold so poorly that they stopped selling them after only 1 Christmas season. I have some Excalibur teams and bases but they are the ones from the original games. If you like I can send you some pictures. They are different figures from everyone else's so are the bases. The guys here in L.A. use them all time to add to their competition teams. :chr: :chr: :chr:

Jokes
 

They are just a company that sells tons of NFL stuff that used their power to steal the liscense. They are a mess!

Hammer on The Nail....
 

Well said and you have the wisdom, time, and investment history to make that statementthmbsp$ remove the emotional part and then you are in a better position for business..the famous quote "business never personal"..

Thanks....
 

GMKC...................I can't believe excaliber's name is EVEN ALLOWED to be mentioned on this web site any longer, .............much less lemmings keep posting about them, ................but hey,........... we can still wait for the GREAT PUMPKIN! lffng$

Chilax

Great Pumpkin
 

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Good one Gee

only good thing about excalibur is they brought me into the hobby... I got a board for Christmas, liked the concept but not the company, and now have a tudor board and miggle bases/figures.

Excellent
I had 39 Excalibur games once because I was buying them (at an extreme discount) for the bases and players to sale. Nobody wanted to buy the boards so I gave away 37 boards one at a time through Craigs list. It was fun and I got several people interested in the sport. So many of the ones who picked them up had no idea about Miggle so I turned them on to them. Some wanted to get back into it because of fond memories and some said they wanted their kids to experience the great times they had when they were kids.
On a personal note I do believe that Miggle will get the rights once again to sale us the NFL teams. It is only a matter of time because of Excaliburs lack of success for the past 2 years. Just hang in their everyone:)
I don't know about you coaches but I am getting hungry for some Turkeythmbsp$
:chr: :chr: :chr: :chr: :chr: :chr: :chr:

Excalibur.... What
 

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on Excalibur to produce anything worth while for this hobby. As far as I can tell, if they haven't done anything by now, they aren't going to do anything ever.

Maurice

The Electric Coach

Hope you are right
 

Then we can continue to move forward. Excalibur is terrible.

I will say this, their TTQB is the best right now, in direct comparison to Miggle's TTQB the Excalibur TTQB blows the Miggle one away. I bought them every time Maniax came around with them for sale.